From what I’ve been reading, both sides are dug in. Aaron isn’t budging and neither is Mark Murphy. I believe this while thing boils down to an organization refusing to be aggressive in a league where the aggressive teams aren’t just winning, they’re winning right away. Aaron looks at what Tampa Bay and Kansas City do for Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes and wonders what the Packers have done for him? They refuse to be aggressive in the FA/trade market, which is especially a problem since Green Bay is not a hot FA destination, they refuse to go over their budget, JJ Watt and Corey Linsley were apparently too expensive, they always draft developmental players that aren’t close to being ready to contribute year 1, I’ve not been a fan of their last few drafts, and they make significant decisions in the QB room without giving Aaron a heads up.
Aaron is someone who doesn’t like to be disliked, his reputation to others matters to him. If Aaron forces his way out of GB, he will become the bad guy. He already is if you listen to some GB talk radio. Will Aaron be willing to potentially become the villain? I don’t know. If I would have to pick one side to fold and give in, I would pick Aaron. This whole situation gives us so much drama and I am here for it. These are the types of stories and situations that we love for. Non-stop content and speculation!
Hey Christian! I love your insights of the Packers organization. It has been up to much debate due to this story as we know it is a historic and famed franchise, though this scenario is all too familiar like with Favre before. Some of the digs on the organization are really starting to come due that maybe like the Patriots, they have been blessed with 20+ years of great QB play that has covered for a multitude of organizational sins. Worth keeping an eye on.
I will just add to your second point of "his reputation matters to him" in terms of being a "bad guy". I have seen a lot of people talk of this whether in that context or as one of the greats and his legacy. From the outside looking in, and not speculating his though process, I think we all know that Aaron has nothing to prove and whatever ends up happening will have little affect on his legacy (despite how hard the media will look to affect it). He will simply do what he feels is best for him. Answer: What is... Whatever Aaron wants.
I agree with some points but others I cant get on board with. 1st the budget thing is a cap. This isnt baseball and Rodgers eats a huge piece of that cap. The bucs were hot trash for many years so they got high picks and brady doesnt break the bank. Thats a dream spot right now but this packers roster is as good as any and thats not debatable. Sure I wanted JJ Watt but the money did matter to him and it was a reach. They didnt overpay for center I'm fine with that also. As for the drafts. Thw 2020 one was a mess I agree 100% Whats wrong with the other Gute drafts?? They landed some real pieces (Alexander Jenkins Savage Gary) They added some nice FAs in the Smiths Amos and Turner. Sure I wanted some other picks to pan out and of course maybe another FA or 2 but this roster can get it done. Get Rodgers out of a lame duck year and show him they are committed for 2 or 3 more seasons. Extend Adams to move some monies and go to work. GPG.
Hey Corey! Love the way you breakdown your points. Usually I would touch on each point but instead I would just like to potentially add to the third. GM Brian Gutekunst has recently seen support by many other GMs/scouts for his character and work ethic, while in the media there is no one willing to support the drafting of Jordan Love. Which of these is truth? A GM's job is to draft what is best for the team as they see best. Prior to this year I was a fan like most who said that the Love pick was the worst for the team, but now as I have learned more about the GM position this past year I have been given more context to the situation that I think has weight.
In 2017, Aaron Rodgers went down with a collarbone injury and the Packers missed the playoffs. The reputation of "continued success at finding the next guy" fell flat on Coach Mike McCarthy's face as he fought to defend Brett Hundley who sat 2 years learning behind Aaron. In 2018, after Aaron posted his second highest yardage total (4,442) and a 25:2 ratio, they missed the playoffs again, with only 5 wins. In 2019, they bounced back with new Coach Matt LeFleur after the ridiculous in-house drama about McCarthy's tenure and a disconnect between Aaron and the new coach, and yet despite all of that, they reached the NFC title game where they got stomped by the Niners.
What should we take away? The QB position is everything but it also cannot and should not be. It is not Aaron's fault he got hurt and they did not have a ready back up in '18. It is not his fault they only had 5 wins in '19. It is not his fault they got stomped back to back in '19 & '20 in the NFC title game. There IS a fault in deservedly making him the highest paid PLAYER multiple times, as teams that have followed this approach have evidently NOT won the big game, while the TRUE example of Brady (not the TB example) was taking less to better the overall team to 6 SB wins in NE. And so Gutekunst drafted a QB who they believe in and who is cheaper while this team is so good and so close. No one is saying he will be Pat Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers but by bolstering the team around him, he does not have to be. BUT if the Aaron and the Packers split and GB regresses terribly, then maybe they are not the classic SB winning team of Lombardi we have longed thought them to be, but instead the Brett Hundley/McCarthy rumors/Aaron-LeFleur conflicting/Aaron wanting out of- organization and we are now only seeing it.
From what I’ve been reading, both sides are dug in. Aaron isn’t budging and neither is Mark Murphy. I believe this while thing boils down to an organization refusing to be aggressive in a league where the aggressive teams aren’t just winning, they’re winning right away. Aaron looks at what Tampa Bay and Kansas City do for Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes and wonders what the Packers have done for him? They refuse to be aggressive in the FA/trade market, which is especially a problem since Green Bay is not a hot FA destination, they refuse to go over their budget, JJ Watt and Corey Linsley were apparently too expensive, they always draft developmental players that aren’t close to being ready to contribute year 1, I’ve not been a fan of their last few drafts, and they make significant decisions in the QB room without giving Aaron a heads up.
Aaron is someone who doesn’t like to be disliked, his reputation to others matters to him. If Aaron forces his way out of GB, he will become the bad guy. He already is if you listen to some GB talk radio. Will Aaron be willing to potentially become the villain? I don’t know. If I would have to pick one side to fold and give in, I would pick Aaron. This whole situation gives us so much drama and I am here for it. These are the types of stories and situations that we love for. Non-stop content and speculation!
Hey Christian! I love your insights of the Packers organization. It has been up to much debate due to this story as we know it is a historic and famed franchise, though this scenario is all too familiar like with Favre before. Some of the digs on the organization are really starting to come due that maybe like the Patriots, they have been blessed with 20+ years of great QB play that has covered for a multitude of organizational sins. Worth keeping an eye on.
I will just add to your second point of "his reputation matters to him" in terms of being a "bad guy". I have seen a lot of people talk of this whether in that context or as one of the greats and his legacy. From the outside looking in, and not speculating his though process, I think we all know that Aaron has nothing to prove and whatever ends up happening will have little affect on his legacy (despite how hard the media will look to affect it). He will simply do what he feels is best for him. Answer: What is... Whatever Aaron wants.
I agree with some points but others I cant get on board with. 1st the budget thing is a cap. This isnt baseball and Rodgers eats a huge piece of that cap. The bucs were hot trash for many years so they got high picks and brady doesnt break the bank. Thats a dream spot right now but this packers roster is as good as any and thats not debatable. Sure I wanted JJ Watt but the money did matter to him and it was a reach. They didnt overpay for center I'm fine with that also. As for the drafts. Thw 2020 one was a mess I agree 100% Whats wrong with the other Gute drafts?? They landed some real pieces (Alexander Jenkins Savage Gary) They added some nice FAs in the Smiths Amos and Turner. Sure I wanted some other picks to pan out and of course maybe another FA or 2 but this roster can get it done. Get Rodgers out of a lame duck year and show him they are committed for 2 or 3 more seasons. Extend Adams to move some monies and go to work. GPG.
Hey Corey! Love the way you breakdown your points. Usually I would touch on each point but instead I would just like to potentially add to the third. GM Brian Gutekunst has recently seen support by many other GMs/scouts for his character and work ethic, while in the media there is no one willing to support the drafting of Jordan Love. Which of these is truth? A GM's job is to draft what is best for the team as they see best. Prior to this year I was a fan like most who said that the Love pick was the worst for the team, but now as I have learned more about the GM position this past year I have been given more context to the situation that I think has weight.
In 2017, Aaron Rodgers went down with a collarbone injury and the Packers missed the playoffs. The reputation of "continued success at finding the next guy" fell flat on Coach Mike McCarthy's face as he fought to defend Brett Hundley who sat 2 years learning behind Aaron. In 2018, after Aaron posted his second highest yardage total (4,442) and a 25:2 ratio, they missed the playoffs again, with only 5 wins. In 2019, they bounced back with new Coach Matt LeFleur after the ridiculous in-house drama about McCarthy's tenure and a disconnect between Aaron and the new coach, and yet despite all of that, they reached the NFC title game where they got stomped by the Niners.
What should we take away? The QB position is everything but it also cannot and should not be. It is not Aaron's fault he got hurt and they did not have a ready back up in '18. It is not his fault they only had 5 wins in '19. It is not his fault they got stomped back to back in '19 & '20 in the NFC title game. There IS a fault in deservedly making him the highest paid PLAYER multiple times, as teams that have followed this approach have evidently NOT won the big game, while the TRUE example of Brady (not the TB example) was taking less to better the overall team to 6 SB wins in NE. And so Gutekunst drafted a QB who they believe in and who is cheaper while this team is so good and so close. No one is saying he will be Pat Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers but by bolstering the team around him, he does not have to be. BUT if the Aaron and the Packers split and GB regresses terribly, then maybe they are not the classic SB winning team of Lombardi we have longed thought them to be, but instead the Brett Hundley/McCarthy rumors/Aaron-LeFleur conflicting/Aaron wanting out of- organization and we are now only seeing it.